Clan War vs. A Strong Clan Discussion

We may as well warm up with easier clans first

I agree with Alan. Though I think IDM is just a bunch of hot-headed crybabies, and that we could beat them playing with our eyes close and using the mouse with our feet, I think it would be good practice playing against smaller/weaker clans. I've noticed we actually have a tougher time against weaker clans than stronger clans, so I do think it would be good.

I think we should start off easy, but not too easy. I also think we should start getting wars more often so we can practice, ik how you feel that losing demoralizes us and makes others less likely to join, but experience is needed; You can't learn to walk if you don't try.

I actually believe we can win IDM. But to do so, we need our best players online at the same time, which is not normal. Of course OU could be a trouble, but Photoshop, I believe you can beat anyone in their clan, seeing that you are a great OU player. Afro Smash, you could easily smash their NU player, wether it being Joey or Rik or whoever, you just have to warm up. You've been quite rusty during some of the past clanwars (MVP, Xclus), but you can do it if you can get back (Which I assume you are now). I don't know who our best hope in Ubers is, but I know for a fact that Granbull, Crobat and Niiick should be able to make us proud. You guys are really good, and now how to deal with the current metagame really well! For LU, I believe in you Haar. Your skills are still there, and I still think you're the best LU player so far to ever have played on the ladder! As for UU, we got a lot of options. Pokemoki, you've peaked #1 on the ladder, and that is indeed for a reason. Mononokel, scrap that Victini weakness and you'll become #1 tomorrow, no doubt. I myself could give it a shot, tho I don't really feel confident, in case opponent brings hardcore stall.


There you sort off have my opinion, lets war them, but not now. Lets wait til we know everyone can be online. Like Spring ^^

we are facing to many new clans what happened to the challenge that po is about its not wrecking new people its facing those top player and beating the living crap out of them.

first lets go beat xclus then we need a challenging war

and 2nd fine ill find an admin

Ive beaten about 5 IDM members on the ladder already. I dont get what all the hype is about. Just another clan imo. Shouldnt be too hard for us.

I still think it'd be better if we build confidence and momentum by facing lesser clans, this will also get members used to pressure situations for when we take on better clans like Xclus and IDM. And although IDM may be more talk than walk, they still have strong members and underestimating them will likely be our demise. I also need to step up my game against stronger clans, i looked back through previous clan wars, and saw that i'd won matches against key and other weaker clans, however against Xclus and MVP i failed, i lost to Cased in the Xclus war, because i simply got outplayed, but in the MVP war i lost to Nikitas... because i foolishly bought the wrong team for the Crustle Bisharp era. So when we do end up warring stronger clans, we need to focus and support each other, ignore specs if neccessary if you need to focus. At the end of the day i don't really care if we lose, if the rival clan wants to gloat or act like idiots thats up to them, it's up to you to take it on the chin and to train harder for the next time you face them. IDM and Xclus are not clans to be feared but respected, we have strong players in Ubers, NU + LU, UU is anybody's guess and OU is most likely in opposing clans favour [no offense Ari + Abe] as these are the tiers they focus on, if we all play at our best then we shouldn't be hard pressed to beat any clan on PO. I don't really know what point i was making lol but i hope you bared with me.

Also i would not advise taking up a clan war against a strong clan like IDM without our leader present.

Also Also Ari don't stop the Claymore ;-;, the actions of the few should not affect the many!

Well overall everyone has pointed out decent facts and or opinions. When it comes to warring IDM, I think we should continue to train up first before we decide on warring. Like, Photo Said we need more OU players so it would be nice for everyone to help chip in and try and recruit for that tier. As for lower tiers no doubt we may have those under control but we should not get to cocky they also have lower tier players like Ed. Maybe we should practice on others clan first may I suggest Key, a nice decent clan we could war and have a good chance on winning. It would be a good practice for others to put themselves out there more, and like Afro said we need to get people more familiar with being in pressured situations it helps by building confidence etc. Overall, Hero is a good clan and I find it a little sad that we doubt ourselves and do not have faith in our  skill. So yeah, maybe Key thoughts???

could everybody stop hating on my team in every 2nd post please? I peaked 1500 with it in march alone, it is not that bad. Also, I volunteered for the clan war because I was criticised for not doing so before. I can just stop doing that because I don't like doing it that much, thank you. I'm a bit pissed that it has to be mentioned everywhere.

I can become competitive comes Wednesday. I am done school by then. I can work on OU, I am just rusty.

I can deal with criticism, but there is a difference when you tell the same thing over and over again. That is not criticism, that is just bashing. If I told you "hey man ur team looks good but it lacks an Omastar counter" and you told me "oh yeah I see what you mean" and I start telling you 3 times more that you lack an Omastar counter, it gets annoying.

if you can't deal with this level of criticism, we won't be able to get a war vs a better clan tbh. You need to be able to handle criticism well; the winners get bragging rights, the losers need to deal with criticism. It seems harsh, but it makes you want to do better next time, to prove yourself. Sorry if this seems harsh, but victini is easily one of the biggest threats in UU, if your team is weak to it, you're going to have a bad time.

Not taking criticism on your teams just because you do well on the ladder is silly. Clan Wars and Tournaments are much different than the ladder; I had a team that peaked around the 1460's despite the fact that even a poorly-played banded Victini or Darmanitan 1-2HKO'd the entire team. Not trying to show off, but I've also beaten multiple players who've peaked 1 or 2 on the ladder in tournaments using randomly-generated teams. 

When building a team, you have to be more focused on removing weaknesses to the biggest/common threats (like Victini) as well as being able to adapt to less common threats over using standard stuff that just beats the average ladder player.

If we want to to good in clan wars we must train together. I have an idea that I want to flesh out over the next days that will hopefully increase our competitive abilities and help us bond more. I'll post it on thursday because I have my final exam tomorow

ok I dont want to make a drama out of it now ^^ I DO accept criticism. @Kyrk Im neither that arrogant nor that silly. I DID know that there was a Victini weakness, and I ACCEPTED that even before the battle. He brought a Victini, so shit. I only stated that it got annoying after the 3rd time that I got told that there was a weakness with the name Victini, because I felt like "Duh IM NOT STUPID! I GET IT!" But it's ok and let's move on xD

Kk, enough picking on Mono, let's get back on track.