Joining Hero / Where are we now?

Me and Nick were discussing, and we think that if people want to join they should not only have to reach the requirements, but also be tested in a battle. They do not have to win said battle, but just to check their battling skills against a top player in that tier from our clan. Thoughts?

Just a bit of QC, don't think it could hurt.

@ photo, that raikage guy is kinda suspicious....
ot: I don't see why not tbh, I mean, if they are able to reach the requirements, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to have a good battle and prove it. I see where photo is coming from, but if they are able to hit the 1st page, they should be able to show it easily

I think it's a good idea, but not a person who is "just a top ladder" person. This person might just be lucky with a team for all I care. If we do this, then I think the newcomer have to fight a person who isn't neccesarely good at a tier, but who can see how this player plays, any weak spots that needs to be covered, and why hes winning/losing. This could be beneficial for not only the newcomer, but people in hero too :]

everybody can improve their battling skills. If they have one good team that they have played the ladder with for ages, what is wrong with that? As long as they are a nice person that wants to improve their playstyle, it's cool.

Personally, I think that the requirements could be discussed again lowering them a little bit, so that we aren't only getting top notch players but people who also want to get better.( Also relates to re-opening HIT ) As for the battling idea, I don't see why not if they were good enough to get the requirment I see no problem with them showing off how good they are infront of other clan members. It's not like if they lose the battle they'll be removed from the clan, nothing is on the line so I think it'd be a good idea to test this Idea out, and if they do need improvement we could link them to one of our many battling guides like my boot camp thing or Nuub's OU analysis or Who's the master now. All good helpful links to send out to other members if we feel that they may need it. As long as this is put in a kindly manner I see no problem with it. Not just witht he Analysis's like someone struggles in ubers but they want to get better maybe crobat can help, or lets say LU afro could be of assistance. But yeah overall I see no reason why this idea shouldn't be put into affect! Thanks for sharing it

I think the reqs are pretty good. You can be a decent player and still meet them if you don't give up and persevere. Also HIT was sort of a flop anyways since some people just won't get better and then we have a few terrible players weighing us down. The testing a player is a good idea but I think it would be better for a prospect to come to our channel. Hang out with us for a bit before they attempt to join and have them ladder while we watch sometimes.

I personally think we should not close the competitive side of the clan. It has been inactive lately but that does not mean people don't enjoy the wars, I am happy to lead a couple, but would rather do so after my exams. I think we could also have a few more events such as teambattles over the next few months, as we have not sone one of these for a while.
The idea of testing was just a suggestion, and lowering/removing the requirements to me seems like a step in the wrong direction.

I really like being competitive, tho chill at the same time (I'd say that's what we are atm). I agree with Niiick, we should wait til the Exmas* are over, so that people got a chance to be more active. I myself will most likely be online early my time, when there aren't really too amny people to talk to, so when I get a reason to come online later on, like a clanwar or a teambat, it usually brings a good discussion and goal to achieve or w/e at the same time. I really enjoy this, and I don't think we should stop doing this :]

speaking for myself, I haven't really tried "laddering" in a long time, I've just been playing around with new pokes in nu/uu. Hax makes laddering a hassle e_e
I think we could do one of several things

1) lower reqs, make them battle a hero member and be approved
2) keep reqs only
3) make reqs + battle needed
4) show in a battle they know what they are doing and have the skills needed

Personally, I think lowering the reqs a little and adding a required battle would be the best choice, hax often changes peoples ranking and high ranking doesn't always mean that they know what they are doing. Maybe lowering the reqs like 50 points or so
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1300 lu 1300 nu 1350/1400 uu no idea what uber and ou are

Sometimes, people hitting the reqs is just pure luck, sometimes, they can't hit the reqs because of their lack of luck. Adding a battle (that will be judged by at least 2 members) would show they know what they are doing. To become a member, 2 of 3 (2 watching and the opponent) would have to say that he showed sufficient skill.

Honestly if you ask me it doesnt even really matter. PO in general is really beginning to get old to me, and the only reason i come on anymore is to chat with people. What makes things worse is when nobody seems to be able to speak. I think the reqs should be 1400 across the board. Thats not too high, but not too low either. And i agree with fille that what we have goin on right now is pretty good. I myself am not overly competitive, but i do like to keep my scores decent. I think we have a good mix of competitive, and casual players. Were like the wildcard clan. Not super competitive like IDM, but not completely noobie like those other guys. And i think people will be attracted to that.

Im still enjoying PO to an extent, it is a getting a bit staler now, however the chat is still cool, and im fine not doing clan wars + doing clan wars. Im pretty happy either way but i agree with Abe that we should be a middle ground clan, not super competitive, but not seen as weak by the community. This clan is and should always be about the peoples personality and not their battling skills, however as we've discussed before, good battling skills = intelligence = good chats. gernerally at least.

i kno this might be a dumb question but what's the 2/3 system?

That's a good point Photo but removing it may be a little harsh towards some. Maybe limiting it to those who we feel are "good" enough to join but can't reach the rank, because we also have to take into consideration hax and decay plus tilting. After alot of tries maybe we could suggest it to them, but as far as I know not many people use the system. But there are also good reasons to remove it, some people may see it as a loophole to get into the clan. Maybe this would be discussed more idk.

I think that we are just busy now. We will freshen up once summertime comes by.